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33 Jillian Lynn Lawson on Oct 09, 2009

I see this line quite often that Conservatives just like to look at the facts.  But what I observe is quite opposite.  Conservatives, at least the most vocal neo-conservatives, seem quite unwilling to look at the facts, on many things, but climate change in particular.  Well-established scientific findings and a great deal of consensis is consistently dismissed when it conflicts with ideology.  Good for Fox News, perhaps, but not for the rest of us.

34 Diana M. on Oct 09, 2009

Re: If you hear conservatives ask for facts, take them at face value and don’t embellish the request.  Conservatives like to look at the facts.  Think of them as Joe Friday “The facts, just the facts”.  It’s a simple request. 

I’ve always heard the phrase “stop your whining” as an a-factual, emotional putdown of those whose ideas differ. Very simple, very straightforward. If you see it differently, so be it.

Self-awareness is another interesting topic, but not one presented by the author of the article. As one who respects scientific and rational inquiry, I tend to favor sticking to the topic offered up for discussion.

35 Steven Salmony on Nov 09, 2009

More madness from the tiny minority of humanity (ie, thieves of the highest order, scoundrels and mad men) who dishonestly commandeer a lion’s share of the world’s wealth, depravedly ‘bonus’ themselves for doing so, dishonorably make the rules by which all human beings live and deplorably rule the world primarily for the own benefit of themselves and their minions.

Words to live by from these self-proclaimed Masters of the Universe among us:

Go forth and multiply. We Masters rule. Forget about humanity.

Plunder, gorge yourselves and hoard ’til you are sated. Satisfy your unfulfilled wishes. Greed rules. Forget about humanity.

Build McMansions, pleasure centers, hideaways from the world, skyscrapers, faster cars, bigger cars, mega-yachts and polluting aircraft for personal aggrandizement and gratification. Greed rules and rules absolutely. Forget about humanity.

In times of danger to self and others, with a single exception, you have an inviolate “duty to warn”. In the “stand alone” case the rule is to be set aside: You can forget about humanity.

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