Discuss: High on Progress

Dear Andrew,

I agree with all that you wrote.

Yet, I have questions:

- What are the possible ways of chalenging the “System”? ( I would be totally happy, if you will choose just to refer me to where a full answer may already be found, instead of bothering to do so yourself here, unless of course you prefer to - which will delight me, as well)

- How can I ( or anybody, for that matter ) NOT think of MY SELF primarily as an individual?

- How does a “more or less” jump, from “The progress train ” might look like?

-How is the planets’ destruction evitable, facing the fact that we ARE witnessing the realization of past nightmares, and the hollow eyes of the power monopolizers?

All the above, is written out of genuine concern for LIFE and not out of a will to be “intelectually interesting and/or provocative”.
I am looking for valid answers within a framework of (to use Karl Jaspers’ term) a “loving struggle”,
in search for effective advices, rather than after a “mind to mind fight”  - high scores.

Granted, unchecked progress and control are disastrous.  Will Egyptians now see only power changing hands?  If the privileged and their minnions overwhelm all discussion with hunger or guns, even if US regular folks starve, how can any still extricate themselves without personal risk?  I would like just potable water, bicycle generator, compost toilet, potatoes, tools, seeds, a goat, chickens

Andrew — You make excellent points. East Indian saying: Sometimes you need a thorn to pluck out a thorn. Lets put our computers to good use.

I see no way any movement (within the framework of your culture, energy systems, production delivery, etc) can work - because ego and isolation, we forgot how to share after kindergarten.  However, given essential and needed common goals (survival) the self-centeredness dissolves